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mr. romney is making the same point. he is serious about tax reform, going to go work with congress when he gets a chance. to put out those details now would be to harm the overall effort. >> that may be true but ethan is fair to point out that the studies we reference are put out by conservative groups. >> that's absolutely true. they're using different specifications from what mitt romney has said. one study says if he raises taxes on people $100,000 than -- $1,000 than $2,000, it makes the math work. the problem is that romney has said i don't want to do any of that. so all of the studies that doug says actually affirms romney, they're all making assumptions that contradict what romney is saying. the reason they have to make she is assumptions is that romney is not showing anyone his tax plan. >> if he can win this with the middle class -- i'm speaking from one small focus group. they cared a lot about it. if this could be something that helps him move this election in swing states and he has to get more specific on l
mr. romney is making the same point. he is serious about tax reform, going to go work with congress when he gets a chance. to put out those details now would be to harm the overall effort. >> that may be true but ethan is fair to point out that the studies we reference are put out by conservative groups. >> that's absolutely true. they're using different specifications from what mitt romney has said. one study says if he raises taxes on people $100,000 than -- $1,000 than $2,000, it...
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people find it difficult to access mr. romney. this will give an opportunity to show people who he really is shep? >> shepard: carl, a new ad out tonight. i wonder if that gives us a hint of what we might hear in this debate. >> it does. mr. romney has been complaining in the recent weeks that the president often misrepresents his position on abortion, the auto bailout. basic tax policy, et cetera. mr. romney also plans to point out that the president has been saying, you know, well, some parts of the economy are doing okay and that the recovery is underway. here is mitt rom know camera one of those ads where he speaks directly to the people, no big music and pictures of others that sort of apple pie and motherhood stuff. this is mitt romney saying what he thinks. >> too many americans today are struggling, living paycheck to paycheck. more americans live in poverty than when president obama took office. >> and the follow-up to that the next line in the ad and the next line in the debates will be that the country simply cannot aff
people find it difficult to access mr. romney. this will give an opportunity to show people who he really is shep? >> shepard: carl, a new ad out tonight. i wonder if that gives us a hint of what we might hear in this debate. >> it does. mr. romney has been complaining in the recent weeks that the president often misrepresents his position on abortion, the auto bailout. basic tax policy, et cetera. mr. romney also plans to point out that the president has been saying, you know,...
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romney believes what does mr. romney need to do and say? >> we have high unemployment. the last growth number 1.3%. we are not creating enough jobs to employ the working age population. you can put good spins on this. basically it is not good. as i look at this it is largely a problem of policy. the policy has not been pro growth. it has been short termism. >> with all due respect i'm sure you watch a lot of the sunday talk shows, the one before the first presidential debate everybody was saying mr. romney has not outlined his own economic proposal so while you may say mr. obama has fallen short mr. romney is not putting out his case. >> i disagree with that. there is a lot of specificity on proposals on energy, the keystone pipeline issue and regulation and make sure we stop the huge growth of regulations and entitlements. he has been very specific. i think his tax program is pro growth. there is a lot of specificity and people look at it. it is the kind of thing the economy needs right now and that is what basic economics tells me. >> bernanke has sited your work as a
romney believes what does mr. romney need to do and say? >> we have high unemployment. the last growth number 1.3%. we are not creating enough jobs to employ the working age population. you can put good spins on this. basically it is not good. as i look at this it is largely a problem of policy. the policy has not been pro growth. it has been short termism. >> with all due respect i'm sure you watch a lot of the sunday talk shows, the one before the first presidential debate...
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in mr. romney's view, if you take a look at the unemployment and account for those who have taken themselves out of job-seeking market, it's far worse than today's sub8 number. watch. >> the truth is, if the same share of people were participating in the workforce today as on the day the president got elected, why our unemployment rate would be around 11%. >> and the romney campaign and experts say if you take those who are out of work, those who stop looking for work and those are ho are under employee employed, the real unemployment number as it's called is north of 14%, harris. >> harris: number subject i understand came up on the trail today is that governor romney shifted his position on what he once called his inelegant remark about the 47%. >> that was one of the things that democrats were criticizing president obama for having not brought up in the debate the other night. criticizing mr. romney for his now 5 month old remarks to a closed fundraiser surreptitiously videoed that he sug
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the president is showing an advantage over mr. romney in most of the battleground states. many think by virtue of his appearance on the stage face to face with the president, that will elevate mr. romney. 5,000-plus people here when he arrived. he's looking for an opportunity to reframe the debate as he has been saying on the campaign trail, the choice between the obama dependency society and what he calls the free enterprise individual liberty and personal responsibility. >> we'll get to describe our respective views and i believe people of colorado will choose a better way forward for our country. we can't afford four more years like the last four years. >> reporter: today mr. romney is behind closed doors. we haven't been told whether this will be one of his more informal discussions with his aids work on what mr. romney calls his zingers or whether it will be a mock debate with senator rob portman who has been shadow boxing with mr. romney more weeks now. in the expectations game the obama campaign has seeds on romney's prook is time and the fact that he had 20 debates
the president is showing an advantage over mr. romney in most of the battleground states. many think by virtue of his appearance on the stage face to face with the president, that will elevate mr. romney. 5,000-plus people here when he arrived. he's looking for an opportunity to reframe the debate as he has been saying on the campaign trail, the choice between the obama dependency society and what he calls the free enterprise individual liberty and personal responsibility. >> we'll get to...
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mr. romney did look a little frustrated a few times. i kind of liken him to a pit bull on a leash trying to get loose. i agree with him on values, whereas the democratic party, i don't agree with their value system at all. >> did you go into tonight's debate already deciding who you were going to vote for? >> i am decided as far as i am not going to vote democratic party, i know that. as far as an independent candidate or mitt romney, i am not sure yet. >> as far as tonight is concerned, watching mr. romney, did that change your opinion whatsoever? >> yes. i am not sure, there are things he is making points about it, i am not sure what he is actually saying. so i need to find out more about where hes headed before i can really make an informed decision. i do have a comment about the health care. this is for any party willing to listen, and that is, i believe that a good way to reduce the cost of health care in this country is fort somebody of government to regulate the billing practices of the health- care industry people. i think that'
mr. romney did look a little frustrated a few times. i kind of liken him to a pit bull on a leash trying to get loose. i agree with him on values, whereas the democratic party, i don't agree with their value system at all. >> did you go into tonight's debate already deciding who you were going to vote for? >> i am decided as far as i am not going to vote democratic party, i know that. as far as an independent candidate or mitt romney, i am not sure yet. >> as far as tonight is...
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mrs. romney, then mrs. obama. and a coin toss determined the president will speak first with romney getting the last word. >> i'd ask the wealthy to pay a little more. >> more americans are living in poverty. >> reporter: after a relentless blitz of campaign ads and months hammering home familiar themes -- >> this is a country where everybody should get a fair shot and everybody should do their fair share. >> we can't afford four more years like the last four years. >> reporter: -- advisers on both sides agree tonight's debate presents a critical opportunity to break through to the american voter. >> this is an opportunity really to reach the voters that haven't yet made up their mind in an unfiltered way. >> they want to hear plans forward. they want to know what the president will do over the course of the next four years. >> reporter: with polls showing mr. obama leading in the swing states top aides encouraged the president to be himself, don't change what's working one senior adviser said. for his part romney
mrs. romney, then mrs. obama. and a coin toss determined the president will speak first with romney getting the last word. >> i'd ask the wealthy to pay a little more. >> more americans are living in poverty. >> reporter: after a relentless blitz of campaign ads and months hammering home familiar themes -- >> this is a country where everybody should get a fair shot and everybody should do their fair share. >> we can't afford four more years like the last four...
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because in those states, mr. romney's argument that mr. obama is responsible for a bad economy doesn't work. ohio is more prosperous now than it's been for decades. and in virginia the unemployment rate is less than 6%. mr. romney probably can't win without either of those two states. and the economic conditions in those states, which are much better than the rest of the country, is really seems to be hurting him and helping the president. >> okay. peter brown, thanks for the interesting chat. i appreciate it. >>> now to number five on our list of the top five trending stories. the new intrusion into kate middleton's private life. more photographs of the duchess of cambridge have surfaced. a danish magazine has published photos showing middleton changing her bikini bottoms taken from the front. st. james palace has not said if it will take legal action. [ horse neighs ] look! she wears the scarlet markings! [ man ] out! your kind is not welcome here! nor your odd predilections! miracle whip is tangy and sweet, not odd. [ man ] it's evil! i
because in those states, mr. romney's argument that mr. obama is responsible for a bad economy doesn't work. ohio is more prosperous now than it's been for decades. and in virginia the unemployment rate is less than 6%. mr. romney probably can't win without either of those two states. and the economic conditions in those states, which are much better than the rest of the country, is really seems to be hurting him and helping the president. >> okay. peter brown, thanks for the interesting...
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mr. romney is close but still in negative territory at 49%. he enjoys an edge on handling the deficit and joblessness, but trails on virtually every other big issue, including medicare, taxes and foreign policy. keeping them honest, when it comes to some of those issues, both candidates have come up short either on specifics or credibility. issues like cutting taxes without ballooning the deficit or burdening the middle class. the romney campaign has been asked again and again for specifics. here's running mate paul ryan just yesterday on fox news. >> there's been a traditional democrat and republican consensus lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works. and you can -- >> i have to -- you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> chris wallace kept trying but came away empty-handed. he's not the only one. take a look. >> which of the deductions are you going to be willing to eliminate? which of the tax credits are you going to -- when are you going to be able to tel
mr. romney is close but still in negative territory at 49%. he enjoys an edge on handling the deficit and joblessness, but trails on virtually every other big issue, including medicare, taxes and foreign policy. keeping them honest, when it comes to some of those issues, both candidates have come up short either on specifics or credibility. issues like cutting taxes without ballooning the deficit or burdening the middle class. the romney campaign has been asked again and again for specifics....
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how exactly will romney counter the idea that he is awkward and not normal? >> mr. romney's team concluded the debates are about creating moments, the quick series of zingers he has memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. >> jon: they equipped him with zingers. >> and you know what? the best zingers are two ones you practice for two months. >> a priest and a rabbi walk into a bar. it is a bar for homosexuals. the priest and the rabbi fall in love and get married because of barack obama! zing! >> i will tell you this, people. i would not (bleep) barack obama's economy with the (bleep). zing! >> zing! >> the candidates are preparing for wednesday's debate we go to senior correspondent aasif mandvi. >> you are with the romney camp, how is he doing? >> he is prepping the best he can, jon, but you hate to see an uphill battle like this, this is the president, the greatest or for this, orator this country has seen since lincoln. >> like i mean, mitt romney, talk about brilliant two, harvard degrees, the guy has never even lost an argument, he is no slouch
how exactly will romney counter the idea that he is awkward and not normal? >> mr. romney's team concluded the debates are about creating moments, the quick series of zingers he has memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. >> jon: they equipped him with zingers. >> and you know what? the best zingers are two ones you practice for two months. >> a priest and a rabbi walk into a bar. it is a bar for homosexuals. the priest and the rabbi fall in love and get...
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for mr. romney 12 million just since the debate. that is a vast amount of on line fund raise there is concern in the republican party that the big donor are making their money for the house and senate because mr. mitt romney had a tough go and well, in the wake of the debate uptake in big dollar donations for the romney campaign suggest they aleviated. there is a major phone bank and calling all over the country that type of grass roots is very, very important as we are 31 days from the election . it is electric. people were wait traffic was thick around that venu. i want to explain to everybody. we are monitor what the government is saying. he is getting cheers about remarks of repealing obama care. carl is on the job . campaign carl, we don't call him that for nothing. moving on now . and sticking with the economy. gas prices reaching an all-time high in one state. that plays in to the economy especially where people are seeing upards to five dollars a gallonon and a serve of deadly attacks. they are known as green on blue attacki
for mr. romney 12 million just since the debate. that is a vast amount of on line fund raise there is concern in the republican party that the big donor are making their money for the house and senate because mr. mitt romney had a tough go and well, in the wake of the debate uptake in big dollar donations for the romney campaign suggest they aleviated. there is a major phone bank and calling all over the country that type of grass roots is very, very important as we are 31 days from the...
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we're not seeing that from mr. romney. a few generalities, but i want to see some specifics and i want him to connect each one up with how many jobs it is going to give us. >> you're looking for specifics tonight. what about, though, as you mentioned the economy, what about the battle for the middle class? you have joe biden as -- let me just play this clip in case our viewers haven't seen it, he really stepped in it yesterday when he said this was in charlotte. >> this is deadly earnest. how they can justify -- how they can justify raising taxes in the middle class who has been buried the last four years, how -- >> buried the last four years. of course, most of the last four years under the obama administration. so, before we chat, mr. stein, i do need to play this follow-up clip, the vice president, you know, coming back and explaining his comment. this was later in asheville. >> the middle class was buried by the policies of romney and that ryan supported. as bill clinton, all they're suggesting now when asked about thi
we're not seeing that from mr. romney. a few generalities, but i want to see some specifics and i want him to connect each one up with how many jobs it is going to give us. >> you're looking for specifics tonight. what about, though, as you mentioned the economy, what about the battle for the middle class? you have joe biden as -- let me just play this clip in case our viewers haven't seen it, he really stepped in it yesterday when he said this was in charlotte. >> this is deadly...
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romney say, mr. president, you've been on an on poll i go tour, you don't know what you're doing in the middle east, you're waiving the work requirement for welfare. if he keeps going like that, the president is likely to lose his temper, isn't he? >> reporter: oh, i don't think so. look, the challenge facing president obama -- >> you don't? >> reporter: -- is the equivalent of a football team ahead trying to run out the fourth quarter. i think his challenge is to deflect, to respond to those with some element of humor, bemouss bemousseement. he'll cite fact-checkers and say independent analysts say your welfare charge is wrong, that sort of thing. i would expect him to be as much above it and not peevish, arrogant, not condescending as is possible to be. this is a president who doesn't make too many mistakes. >> karen, tonight's focus is domestic. >> yep. >> no bigger domestic issue than the economy, as we know. we'll have a rather open format. do you think we'll actually hear a specific from mr. ro
romney say, mr. president, you've been on an on poll i go tour, you don't know what you're doing in the middle east, you're waiving the work requirement for welfare. if he keeps going like that, the president is likely to lose his temper, isn't he? >> reporter: oh, i don't think so. look, the challenge facing president obama -- >> you don't? >> reporter: -- is the equivalent of a football team ahead trying to run out the fourth quarter. i think his challenge is to deflect, to...
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mr. romney was rinded of that today. ndha aishe and sons did not sve in the wars of their era. he was reminded of that by a man whose family has done the opposite. in virginia today, center wepp said this good the people that mitt romney thinks of as takers. >> i grew up in the military. my dad was a pilot and i was a marine. my brother and son was a marine. i've worked on veteran's issues all of my adult life. governor romney and i are right about the same age young guys. like millions we came to adulthood facing the reali of the war. 2.7 million wept to war. took the lives of young americans and cost 300,000 wounds. vietnam, 1969 our country lost twice as many dead as we have lost in iraq afghanistan combined over the past ten years of war. 68 was worse and 67 was the same. and there was not a day that goes by that io nothink abthunrith was privileged to lead. they have lived lives of courage both in combat and after their return. many of th we derided by r pefovi served. but in receiving veteran's benefits they are not takers they are givers inhe ultate sense of the word. th
mr. romney was rinded of that today. ndha aishe and sons did not sve in the wars of their era. he was reminded of that by a man whose family has done the opposite. in virginia today, center wepp said this good the people that mitt romney thinks of as takers. >> i grew up in the military. my dad was a pilot and i was a marine. my brother and son was a marine. i've worked on veteran's issues all of my adult life. governor romney and i are right about the same age young guys. like millions...
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what mr. romney had said. >> i'm sorry, jim. i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and other things and i like pbs, i like big bird i actually like you to, but not borrowing money to pay china for supporting it. >> and the big broadcasting systems. what's the truth? could big bird be going bye-bye? joining us, from the christian monitor, good morning. >> good morning. >> so are big bird and pbs really in any danger here? >> well, i don't think big bird's had a week this good in a while. he's huge on twitter now. i think his twitter presence increased like 800,000%, and the thing about big bird and "sesame street" is they have so much outside funding. it's not like "sesame street" will disappear. pbs, the subsidy, it's a sizable chunk of their budget and would be a big blow. >>? how much? a perspective? how much the government chips in? >> it fluctuates year to year. 10% to 15%. in 2011, 12% funneled stlu came from the government subsidy. >> definite lay sizable clunk there. pbs has released a statement accusing governor romney of
what mr. romney had said. >> i'm sorry, jim. i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and other things and i like pbs, i like big bird i actually like you to, but not borrowing money to pay china for supporting it. >> and the big broadcasting systems. what's the truth? could big bird be going bye-bye? joining us, from the christian monitor, good morning. >> good morning. >> so are big bird and pbs really in any danger here? >> well, i don't think big bird's had a week...
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romney would do if he became president. mr. romney has said recently and vaguely that he supports what president obama is doing in afghanistan in terms of there being a timeline for leaving but he has also said he was against a timeline for leaving in the past. so really who knows? he's not even trying. the closest we've gotten to any competing cogent republican position on the war is probably what we got from senator john mccain at the republican convention when he said that the afghanistan war just shouldn't end. he also thinks that the iraq war shouldn't have ended. so i'm not sure that it's a politically viable position. even if it is an internally cogent one from the senator. for this year's nominee, it's apparently just not going to happen. not unless he starts it now. 40 days out, mitt romney did get as close as he gets to talking about the issue today. in that he spoke before a group of veterans and talked about a concern about veterans. even if he didn't say what he wanted to do about that concern. mr. romney, in fact,
romney would do if he became president. mr. romney has said recently and vaguely that he supports what president obama is doing in afghanistan in terms of there being a timeline for leaving but he has also said he was against a timeline for leaving in the past. so really who knows? he's not even trying. the closest we've gotten to any competing cogent republican position on the war is probably what we got from senator john mccain at the republican convention when he said that the afghanistan...
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mr. romney was no doubt pleased with the reviews of last night's debate, most of which said the former massachusetts governor got the better of president obama. matt jablow spoke tonight with the man who knows a thing or two about presidential debates and said he was just stunned by president obama's poor performance. >> i love these debate. >> reporter: as long-time political correspondent for cnn, frank cesno covered more than his share of debates. >> '84, '88, '94, 2000. >> reporter: but none more interesting than last night's duel in denver. >> because of the expectations that went in were so completely divergent from the results that came out. >> reporter: currently the director of the school of media and public affairs at george washington university, he said mitt romney's poised performance -- >> i will not reduce the taxes paid by high-income americans. >> reporter: romney looked like he wanted to be there. he was engaged. >> coupled with president obama's lackluster performance s
mr. romney was no doubt pleased with the reviews of last night's debate, most of which said the former massachusetts governor got the better of president obama. matt jablow spoke tonight with the man who knows a thing or two about presidential debates and said he was just stunned by president obama's poor performance. >> i love these debate. >> reporter: as long-time political correspondent for cnn, frank cesno covered more than his share of debates. >> '84, '88, '94, 2000....
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this video about mr. romney and his family. it's very nice. nobody saw it at the convention but they're using it at their events now. right. and they gave "time" magazine that 1968 photo of young mitt romney on a beach in france with his love letter to ann, written in the sand. i mean you can understand why they wouldn't maybe want to highlight that mitt romney spent his draft eligible years writing love letters in france instead of serving in vietnam, but there is also a human benefit to showing him, right? human. an ounce of handsome, humanized mitt at this point might be worth a pound of questions on how he avoided serving during the war. they are trying. they've even got him talking about health reform in massachusetts again. and conservatives now are so scared of him losing as badly as it looks like him losing that they are not even squawking about it this time the way they did when he talked about romney care just last month. the romney campaign is trying to do some things right. they're trying to make people dislike their candidate less
this video about mr. romney and his family. it's very nice. nobody saw it at the convention but they're using it at their events now. right. and they gave "time" magazine that 1968 photo of young mitt romney on a beach in france with his love letter to ann, written in the sand. i mean you can understand why they wouldn't maybe want to highlight that mitt romney spent his draft eligible years writing love letters in france instead of serving in vietnam, but there is also a human...
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mr. ryan is sharpening his attacks against the president and romney campaign. they face the president's growing lead in the polls in both states. nbc's ron mott is live on the phone from boston with us. ron, what's the latest there? >> hey, alex, good morning to you. we're in boston, just getting ready to board the buses and head up to derry, new hampshire, for that first rally that you mentioned. paul ryan is going to be speaking in new hampshire, and then we are off to ohio. a little bit later for a banquet in columbus later this afternoon. he's sharpening his attack against the president. the president seems to develop bigger and bigger leads in those big battlegrounds, ohio, virginia, florida, as the attacks from the romney campaign are getting just a little bit sharper and what paul ryan is going out and doing now, the past week or so, he's brought out the power point. the numbers guy, a budget guy, he's showing voters who come to these rallies exactly, and in raw numbers, the deficit problem the country has and he said that mitt romney is the better candi
mr. ryan is sharpening his attacks against the president and romney campaign. they face the president's growing lead in the polls in both states. nbc's ron mott is live on the phone from boston with us. ron, what's the latest there? >> hey, alex, good morning to you. we're in boston, just getting ready to board the buses and head up to derry, new hampshire, for that first rally that you mentioned. paul ryan is going to be speaking in new hampshire, and then we are off to ohio. a little...
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then on to virginia and ohio for mr. romney. mitt romney's campaigns in virginia and then florida. monday he's expected, as he said, to start filling in the policy details with the first of several speeches starting with foreign policy. we'll be right back. vest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. >>> welcome back to "hardball." last night was a tough night for the president, of course, but there's another story to be told about mitt romney's performance, which relied on fuzzy math. vague policy prescriptions and statements that strained the truth. i'm being nice here. he denied his tax plan would cost $5 trillion. denied it. independent economists say it's the case. "the new york times" editorial today, they got out overnight, says the following, virtually every time mr. romney spoke, he misrepresented the platform on which he and p
then on to virginia and ohio for mr. romney. mitt romney's campaigns in virginia and then florida. monday he's expected, as he said, to start filling in the policy details with the first of several speeches starting with foreign policy. we'll be right back. vest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers...
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but i've got news for mr. romney. the obama campaign is hammering home who the real romney is and what he stands for. he's a candidate who has no problem writing off the country, something that this president refuses to do. >> i'm not fighting to create democrat or republican jobs, i'm creating jobs. i'm fighting to improve schools in the united states of america. i'm not fighting on behalf of rich values or poor values or 53% value. i'm fighting for american values. he's fighting for american values. but the other candidate, the man behind the mask, he's offering us a budget that takes care of the rich but leaves everyone else in the dust. >> show me your budget. i'll tell you what you've got. let's take a look at their budget. why are they doing it? well, they are doing it because they have to. and here's the reason they have to. they cannot possibly, possibly continue to add to the tax cuts of the super wealthy. >> that's what is behind the romney mask. that's what the next 39 days to the election are all about. an
but i've got news for mr. romney. the obama campaign is hammering home who the real romney is and what he stands for. he's a candidate who has no problem writing off the country, something that this president refuses to do. >> i'm not fighting to create democrat or republican jobs, i'm creating jobs. i'm fighting to improve schools in the united states of america. i'm not fighting on behalf of rich values or poor values or 53% value. i'm fighting for american values. he's fighting for...